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Interview with David Rudovsky: Tape Index

Interviewee: David Rudovsky

Interviewer: Lisa Hernandez

Date: November 16, 1999

00:00 - Introduction

00:28 - Background information—birthplace, parents’ birthplace

00:42 - Family information—parents’ names, parents’ employment, siblings

1:30 - Childhood interests/elementary school

2:33 - High school—favorite subjects, sports

3:10 - College (1960-1964)—Queens College, political activism at college

6:10 - Law School (1964-1967)—NYU

7:39 - First summer—internship in Georgia with C.B. King, a black civil rights lawyer

8:30 - Background information on C.B. King

9:17 - Hands-on nature of working with C.B. King

12:52 - Returning to law school for second year

13:34 - Third year—Arthur Garfield Hayes Civil Liberties Program

14:48 - Fellowship at Penn (1967-1970)

15:05 - Description of the program

15:30 - Working at the Defender’s Office

17:26 - Social life during the program (returning to NY every weekend)

18:18 - Political activism of Penn student body/political movements in Philadelphia

19:34 - Professors here when he arrived that are still at Penn

20:22 - Participating in the fellowship for an extra year

21:54 - Becoming an adjunct faculty member at Penn (1972)

22:10 - Teaching Trial Advocacy, supervising students doing clinical program in prisoners’ rights

22:30 - Teaching Style

25:45 - Quality of Penn students (standing up under pressure)

26:18 - Convergence of interest between teaching and practicing

26:46 - Popularity as a professor

27:08 - Ability to bring practical experience into the classroom

28:42 - The Practice—starting his firm (1971)

28:55 - Partner—David Kairys

30:10 - Vision for the firm

31:08 - Clients—mostly groups and individuals he was politically involved with

31:36 - Case—Philadelphia Resistance v. Hoover and Mitchell (class action seeking injunctive relief against FBI)

34:37 - Case—major piece of litigation against Philadelphia prison system

35:05 - Ability to pick cases

35:55 - Personal political stake in the issues

36:18 - Consistent demand for the firm’s services in civil rights,civil liberties, and criminal defense

36:32 - Growth in public interest law in general

38:14 - Current attorneys at the practice

38:55 - Litigating against ADAs and AGs

39:45 - Comfortable in advocacy

40:21 - Arguing in front of the Supreme Court

42:02 - Has considered leaving his practice to teach full-time

43:00 - Most memorable case (represented a good friend and his family against the CIA)

48:32 - Lecturing at civil rights/civil liberties seminars—police misconduct, search and seizure/Fourth Amendment issues

49:10 - Book on police misconduct

51:09 - Involvement with the ACLU

51:25 - Co-litigating cases with the ACLU

52:37 - Progress in terms of civil liberties since the 1960’s

53:55 - Awards—Flood Memorial Award

54:10 - Returning to the Defender’s Office for three years as First Assistant Defender

54:56 - Awards—MacArthur Foundation Award (“Genius Award”)

56:50 - ACLU Civil Liberty Award

57:05 - Bread and Roses Community Fund Social Justice Award

58:01 - Feelings about the work he has done/opportunities to make changes in the law

59:05 - What he would still like to do professionally

1:00:10 - Where he sees himself in ten years (more teaching)

1:00:51 - Advice for law students and young lawyers

1:01:40 - Conclusion

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